Oct 07 2002
shaping history
my pal keith just informed me that i will dare, made the list of 500 Songs That Shaped Rock.
Even Here We Are
I'm Jodi Chromey, a writer who lives in Minnesota. This is the story of my life. You can reach me at jodi@iwilldare.com.
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Minnesota Reads-
You & I Are Gonna Be Friends
- Paul Westerberg.net
- Bittersweetheart
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Etc.
It is to damn bad that Rock is dead. For me Rock died the day that Kurt Cobain was murdered. I mean name me one really good rock album that actually mattered since 1994
07 Oct 02 at 4:08 pm #oh! you are showing your age. believe it or not, kurt cobain did not invent rock and roll.
07 Oct 02 at 4:36 pm #No he didn’t invent rock and roll but it died with him. Grunge was the last breath of original rock. When it died the genre died too. Currently the only innovative music out there is Techno or Trip Hop and the rest is just re-heated microwave MTV leftover swill. I mean what is cutting edge? Dixie Chix, Puff Daddy, and EMEMNEMEM?
2002 + ROCK = DEAD
07 Oct 02 at 5:05 pm #I dig disturbed.
07 Oct 02 at 10:08 pm #Jake, you really need to take a deep breath, relax, and STOP LISTENING TO CLEAR CHANNEL STATIONS.
Rock isn’t anywhere near dead, you just have to look for it. This means it’s more alive than ever because Corporate American Radio and Hilary Rosen don’t want you to hear it, and anything they don’t want you to hear is a Good Thing. OK?
07 Oct 02 at 10:48 pm #i only have CLEAR CHANNEL STATIONS where i live
im so deprived
08 Oct 02 at 5:37 am #What I’m about to say disturbs me more than a sack of spiders…
*AHEM*
I agree with Uncouth(e) Heathen.
Cobain’s death was unfortunate, and kept us from knowing whether or not he’d achieve the true potential that lay deep in the thought provoking lyrics of Nirvana’s freshman album, or if he’d lapse into a “radio friendly format”, abandoning the core of which he based that early sound, to garner air-time and the almighty dollar (a-la Alanis Morrisette).
Perhaps Kurt’s death stymied the growth of innovative music, but only to the American audience. Grunge’s death came about with the upswing of the economy; Teenagers, suddenly finding themselves with material possessions granted to them by their nouveaux-riche dotcom parents no longer found anything to lament about, and turned to the pop-y sound of the boy bands. Now that we find our culture and economy in the doldrums again, we can expect to see more raw emotions being fed into our popular music.
08 Oct 02 at 7:12 am #I don’t know if Rock died when Cobain died, but I know it became less important. The era which followed had no passion, it was cookie cutter corporate music which is still the norm today especially on the wasteland which is Radio.
There are ppockets of music which matters. You just have to look real hard to find them.
P.S. Kurt was my neighbor when he took his life and I mourned in his backyard with a number of other fans.
08 Oct 02 at 8:34 am #i found this interesting. take a look. if you don’t find an important album on there, then you’re just trying to be difficult.
i hate that rock is dead bullshit. just hate it. it’s not just you jake, people have been proclaiming rock is dead for ages. it died with buddy holly and joey ramone and sid vicious.
rock might be dead for you, but i still love finding it. and maybe you just need to go see ryan adams in concert to know that rawk is alive and well.
and really, to call techno and trip hop original is quite ludicrous because isn’t a majority of that all sort of sampley stuff anyway?
08 Oct 02 at 9:37 am #>P.S. Kurt was my neighbor when he took his life and >I mourned in his backyard with a number of other >fans.
You mean when his druggie bitch of a wife hired a thug to shoot him and make it look like a half assed suicide.
Have you ever heard DJ shadow and a whole Fat Boy Slim album? You can sample and still make great original music. You can by just an artist with a turn table as you can with a guitar.
08 Oct 02 at 11:43 am #“What I’m about to say disturbs me more than a sack of spiders…”
You love me, Thomas, you know you do.
08 Oct 02 at 12:17 pm #So how do you kids define rock and roll, anyway? How can you tell the difference between rock and pop these days?
08 Oct 02 at 2:48 pm #I haven’t been a kid for quite a while now.
Pop gives you cavities.
Rock makes you Bop.
08 Oct 02 at 4:09 pm #ketut, we all know that Bopping is an act performed only by outrageous 80’s singing sensations and Little Bunny Foo-Foo after picking up the field mice.
09 Oct 02 at 7:35 am #Maybe I should have said f#*k.
09 Oct 02 at 8:18 am #“What I’m about to say disturbs me more than a sack of spiders…”
You love me, Thomas, you know you do.
i thought we all loved the uncouth heathen!
09 Oct 02 at 8:26 am #doesn’t all good music make you want to bop?
09 Oct 02 at 8:28 am #Not necessarily! reggae; yes. classical; not so much. some jazz makes me want to have a cup of tea while looking out the window. Some country (Lucinda Williams especially) makes me want to sit in a smoky bar watching the human condition.
and so on…
Keith
09 Oct 02 at 9:58 am #ketut, no. You should have said fuck (f#*k only diminishes the beauty and power of the word fuck.)
And we all love Uncouth(e) Heathen, but as a knee-jerk capitalist and self-proclaimed conservative bastard I don’t always AGREE with him. Except in this case and when he proclaims your ta-ta’s to be uber-bodacious.
09 Oct 02 at 10:00 am #Thomas, you are correct.
I often tell people the beauty of swearing is when you only use it to fully convey your feeling. Most people use swearing too often (laziness maybe? ) thus sapping it of its’ strength.
Have you heard Dennis Leary go on about the word fuck and it’s many uses?
K
09 Oct 02 at 10:31 am #Yes, I’ve also heard the famous/infamous MP3 dissertation on the word fuck, including the memorable “Fuck the fucking fuckers” and the dear to me “Why don’t you go outside and play hide and go fuck yourself?”.
I even like it used in acronyms such as FUBAR and FUGLY.
09 Oct 02 at 10:36 am #That’s the one. And the song Asshole is also a classic.
09 Oct 02 at 10:38 am #I guess my thought was that rock has become such a broad classification as to have lost most of its meaning, kind of like jazz or classical. In the halcyon days of my youth, it wasn’t rock-n-roll unless it pissed off your parents and made them scream for you to turn off that crap. Of course, my grandparents said the same thing about the bebop my dad listened to, so maybe that isn’t the best definition.
09 Oct 02 at 2:24 pm #So I go to “Z” at the bottom of the list to see if the Zombies made it. “She’s Not There” was a great rock song which mixed rock with jazz and killer electric organ…. but instead: ZZ Top, “Legs”
Pray tell, how did “Legs” influence rock ‘n roll? Was it their beards?
09 Oct 02 at 3:15 pm #